Sep 9, 2007

Apartment Room Count


I read The New York Post's Saturday real estate section and their real estate blog online. I get it by email. Nobody does gossip better than The Post. They often write about mistakes they find in the paper of record (The NY Times) and the other NY tabloid The Daily News.

Since I am a Manhattan real estate broker I certainly know how to count rooms in an apartment. Now that I have a blog I can write about mistakes in the media too.

Jane Reilly Mount wrote in the NY Post's real estate section that a "classic six" apartment only has five rooms and reported that only the "classics" count the kitchen in the total count of rooms and other apartments do not.

"Why is a "classic six" called that when it’s only five rooms? Shouldn’t it be a
"classic five?" Oh clever mathematician ... right you are. "Classic six" is
a term defining the type of layout often found in prewar buildings of the
fancier sort common on the Upper East Side and Upper West Side. To qualify for
the moniker, the apartment must include two full-size bedrooms, a living room, a
formal dining room and a maid’s room. Which makes five rooms! Oddly enough, only the "classics" count the kitchen in the total count of rooms, unlike all other
apartments, which brings it to six."
Jane Reilly Mount The New York Post

Kitchens are always included in apartment room count except for a Pullman kitchen which is not a room. The number of baths are counted separate.

For the record there is a "classic five" (two bedroom, living room, dining room, kitchen) There is also a "classic seven" (three bedrooms, living room, dining room, kitchen, maids room)

My favorite is the "Edwardian five." (one bedroom, living room, dining room, kitchen, maids room) New Yorkers lived quite grand during the Edwardian era (circa 1900-1920) The Edwardian five was a great apartment for entertaining.

Today families reconfigure the dining room and maids room into a second and small third bedroom. The small maids bath can be used as a laundry room or powder room.

As a service to my readers, NY Post readers and Manhattan apartment buyers below is the recommended method of residential room count found in the Residential Guide devised by REBNY's Residential Brokerage Division. (Real Estate Board of New York)

Apartment Room Count:

1roomStudio with pullman kitchen
roomsStudio with pullman kitchen and alcove or dining area
2roomsStudio with separate kitchen
roomsStudio with separate kitchen and sleeping alcove
rooms1 bedroom with Pullman kitchen and living room
3rooms1 bedroom, living room, kitchen
rooms1 bedroom, living room, kitchen, dining area
4rooms1 bedroom, living room, kitchen, dining room - or -2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen
rooms2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining area
5rooms2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining room
rooms3 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining area
6rooms2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining room, maid's room
7rooms3 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining room, maid's room - or -2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining room, 2 maid's rooms
8rooms3 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining room, 2 maid's rooms
9roomsTypically 3 bedrooms, library, living room, dining room, kitchen, 2 maid's rooms
10roomsTypically 3 bedrooms, library, living room, dining room, kitchen, 3 maid's rooms
11roomsTypically 4 bedrooms, library, living room, dining room, kitchen, 3 maid's rooms
12roomsTypically 4 bedrooms, library, living room, dining room, kitchen, either 4 maid's rooms or servant hall and 3 maid's rooms
13rooms4 bedrooms, library, living room, dining room, kitchen, 4 maid's rooms and servant's hall
14rooms5 bedrooms, library, living room, dining room, kitchen, 4 maid's rooms and servant's hall

For more information about Manhattan, NYC apartment and building terminology click below:

New York City Apartment Terminology A to Z

New York City Building Terminology

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3 Responses to "Apartment Room Count"
  1. Cleveland Carole Cohen 3C said...
    September 09, 2007

    I love how everyone has a different room count; how cool of you to provide the correct guide! Here our biggest issue is people trying to say there is an extra bedroom when there isn't one...usually because there is no closet. I can't imagine not counting the kitchen lol

  2. Mitchell Hall said...
    September 10, 2007

    Hi Carole, I never heard of anyone not counting the kitchen. There are brokers that try to pass studios off for 1 bedrooms. A large studio with an alcove is sometimes called a junior 1. (meaning a junior 1 bedroom) it is only 2.5 rooms but they put it in the system as 3 rooms so it will come up on 1 bedroom searches. Another trick some brokers use is calling a regular apartment even a tiny studio a loft.

  3. furnished apartments Houston said...
    April 29, 2012

    Thanks so much for sharing Apartment Room Count related information. It's really valuable.

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